December 18, 2009
Wyoming vs Fresno State, New Mexico Bowl (Dec 19, Albuquerque, NM)
Mike: I don’t understand the bowl process. UCLA was on the fence to even get a bowl, yet Wyoming, the #5 team in the Mountain West gets a bid. The BCS mess hides what a terrible idea the whole bowl tie-in system is. As for the game, it’s going to take a little while to get to games that I have a clue about. I’m going to start with just schedules. Before, I didn’t mean that the Mountain West was bad, but in most cases a 6-6 Pac-10 team will be better than a 6-6 Mountain West team. However, with TCU, BYU, and Utah at the top of the Mountain West they aren’t losses you can fault Wyoming for. However, they were shut out three times this year and scored 10 or less in all of their losses. Frenso lost to their conference superiors (Boise St and Nevada). However, their non-conference losses to Wisconsin and Cincy were both by only a possession. Pick: Fresno State
Evan: I like how Janke is going to take the reigns and do all the research for these lesser bowls that I know nothing about. Everything he said sounds good. Pick: Fresno St
Ahad: I donâ€™t think anyone fully understands the bowl process. My method for picking games is going to be to go with my gut instinct. Pick: Fresno St
Matt: How does a state get a bowl game named after it? Does this game even have a sponsor? Both teams played a New Mexico team during the regular season and won. However, Fresno State was the only one to do it IN New Mexico. Either way, they are the better team. Pick: Fresno State
Rutgers vs UCF, St. Petersburg Bowl (Dec 19, St. Petersburg, FL)
Mike: I’m not sure how Rutgers season happened. I thought they were terrible but they only lost to the Big East heavyweights and Syracuse. That Syracuse loss was later in the year and I already had a terrible opinion of Rutgers. This is the only way I know to make it up to them. Pick: Rutgers
Evan: Here is the other side of the story – UCF is awful. They finally got a signature win for the program – a W against Houston, which wouldn’t even be a signature win if it weren’t for Houston playing over their head at the beginning of the year. Pick: Rutgers
Ahad: I donâ€™t like Rutgers and I donâ€™t think I ever will. Pick: UCF
Matt: UCF will have the home field advantage playing in Florida. How will Rutgers respond to the crowd? I think this may actually be a decent game. I like Rutgers in a close one. Pick: Rutgers
Middle Tennessee State vs Southern Miss, R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl (Dec 20, New Orleans, LA)
Mike: I’m split on the worst directional school designation, at least in terms of perception. Would it be two directions (SE, SW, etc.) or middle? So right off the bat MTSU is starting off behind. I had to look up that they play in the Sun Belt. They only had 1 loss in conference. They had 2 non-conference wins against Memphis and Maryland, both of witch had 2 win seasons. Southern Miss doesn’t have a much better resume. Wins against UCF and Virginia don’t overly excite me. At least UCF is a bowl team. Pick: Southern Miss
Evan: Southern Miss is also the alma mater of Brett Favre and Todd Pinkston. Pick: Golden Eagles (that’s southern miss)
Ahad: I have to say that middle is a terrible designation. Did they not want to use central or are they just trying to be different? Pick: Southern Miss
Matt: Is MTSU even in the middle of Tennessee? The state is hardly symmetric so I think it would be difficult to determine the middle. Southern Miss played more quality competition this year and it will show in this game. Pick: Southern Miss
December 12, 2009
Now that the final bowl matchup is set (Temple vs UCLA) you can start making your bowl picks on Ice Cream Helmet.
You can also create your own group and invite your friends to join. You have the option for each game to count for one point or do confidence points (1-34).
Keep up with the picks as people make them on the Pick Distribution page.
December 8, 2009
Matt dominated our BF picks this year. I fell behind in the final week or two.
The one positive I’m taking away from my picks this season was my prediction in Week 8. My pick for the Kansas/Oklahoma game:
Kansas doesnâ€™t impress me at 5-1. Looking at their schedule I can see them ending up 6-6. Oklahoma doesnâ€™t have Bradford but they still have their D. Thatâ€™s all they need. Pick: Oklahoma
I was a little off, Kansas ended up 5-7. Still, not a bad call only half way through the season.
December 6, 2009
There is only one regular season game left, but neither Army or Navy is in the Top 25, so for purposes of ICH Picks, the season is over. Here are the final standings. These are correct picks of Top 25 games against the spread this season. For the season, that totaled 260 games.
I finished 5th, 20 games behind Evan. That’s a pretty big gap when you think about it. I was behind from early in the season. In my group I did very well with wager points early on that had me near the top of the group.
Stay tuned, bowl picks should be coming this week.
December 5, 2009
|Saturday, December 5, 2009|
|Away Team||Pick %||Spread||Pick %||Home Team||Time|
|#5 Cincinnati||75%||1.5||25%||#14 Pittsburgh||12:00pm|
|#18 Houston||100%||0||0%||East Carolina||12:00pm|
|#24 West Virginia||100%||-2.5||0%||Rutgers||12:00pm|
|New Mexico State||50%||47.5||50%||#6 Boise State||3:00pm|
|#1 Florida||50%||-6.5||50%||#2 Alabama||4:00pm|
|#12 Georgia Tech||50%||-1.5||50%||#25 Clemson||8:00pm|
|#3 Texas||100%||-14.5||0%||#21 Nebraska||8:00pm|
Pick % are against the spread.
December 4, 2009
Cincinnati @ Pittsburgh, Saturday 12pm
Evan: This is simple. Who would I rather see play in the Orange Bowl? The truth is neither, I wish the Big East didn’t even have an automatic bid. I think the Bearcats offense is simply too explosive. Pick: Cincy
Ahad: Have I mentioned how much I donâ€™t like Pitt? For that reason Iâ€™m going with Cincy. Pick: Bearcats
Matt: This is a tough game to call, especially with Pitt playing at home. Cincy should be able to put up a ton of points, but can their defense make a play? They haven’t played well of late. They need to be able to stop Lewis and the run game. If they don’t, they can kiss their BCS hopes goodbye. I think they will get the job done, though. Pick: Cincinnati
Mike: I’d like Pitt to make it a game but I think Pike is back and firing on all cylinders. They should just pick Pitt apart and score as many points as they need. Pick: Cincinnati
Florida vs Alabama, Saturday 4pm
Evan: Oh boy. Obviously 2 great defenses. Florida suffered a loss this week because we have a moron for an all-american defensive end. The good news is that our defensive line has more depth than any other unit. A lot of people will say that this will be a defensive struggle, a low scoring affair. However, I think td’s will be scored and see a game in the high teens, low 20’s. Pick: UF 20, Bama 17
Ahad: Should be a great defensive matchup. I think if Tebow has a great game he might win the Heisman. I will have to go with Evan on this one. Pick: Gators
Matt: I think Evan is accurate in his score prediction. It will probably be a score in the 20’s. As much as I like Florida, I’d like to see another team in the Championship Game this year. I hate picking against Tebow, because with his superhuman abilities, he would probably find a way to win, but I am gonna go with Alabama (sorry Evan) Pick: Alabama
Mike: Shouldn’t we have all written this pick in the preseason to save some time now? I’m surprised nobody sees a blowout. Isn’t this a Tebow carrying the team on his back game? There have been 17 SEC Championship games. UF/Bama has been the matchup six times, with UF winning four of them. There may be some Bama revenge from last year, but I don’t see it. This is Tebow’s NCAA. Pick: Florida
Texas vs Nebraska, Saturday 8pm
Evan: No other conferences have as many crazy upsets in their championship game as the Big 12. In this college football year of not many exciting games, and few major upsets, I don’t think Nebraska has a chance. Texas is playing for a spot in the Championship game. Pick: Texas
Ahad: The Big 12 North is terrible and Texas will be looking to prove that they are not the 3rd best team in the country. Texas will have no problems with Nebraska. Pick: Texas
Matt: I hear some people saying Nebraska will give Texas a close game, but I am not really seeing it. Texas likely gets into the BSC Championship Game with a win. Pick: Texas
Mike: Yawn. I put this game in to include the Conference Championships. Is Nebraska capable of an upset? Sure. But who’s picking that? Nebraska’s loss to Iowa State killed any chance of anyone picking them. Pick: Texas
Georgia Tech vs Clemson, Saturday 8pm
Evan: Why don’t we just have Georgia play South Carolina instead and declare them ACC champs? That could be the new prize for finishing 5th and 6th in SEC, which both the Bulldogs and Gamecocks were before they both stomped these two ACC title contenders last week. Pick: Clemson
Ahad: I am fan of the G-Tech option attack. If Nesbit didnâ€™t get hurt against Georgia, they probably would have won that game. Pick: G-Tech
Matt: Both teams are coming off losses in their respective rivalry game. There should be lots of rushing yards for both teams. Which team can stop the run better? Georgia Tech won their first meeting earlier this season, and they should complete the sweep. Pick: Georgia Tech
Mike: I’m guessing this will be the game of the day. GT won the first matchup, very early in the season, 30-27. That game was at GT. Clemson hit a large bump (canyon?) early in the season with their loss to Maryland. They’ve crawled their way back ever since. I get the feeling that GT usually gets the advantage with their unique offense taking some getting used to. Clemson will not be surprised having even more experience against them and nearly beating them. Pick: Clemson
December 4, 2009
Daron: Yeah,Â Â I dunno who to pick there.Â I want UF. because, ya know, Bama will be obnoxious if they win it all
Daron: But I’m not sure
Justin: are they gonna not be if they lose?
Daron: true but I think Tebow could pull this off, if he had the receivers he had last year. He does not
Justin: yeah, though alabama’s offense wasn’t especially inspiring in the iron bowl
Daron: he’s going to have to carry this game. True.Â I read what Dan Mullen said about his strategy
Justin: Rolando McClain might eat one or two runningbacks
Daron: and it was “make tebow beat you on the ground”. Because he, unlike demps, is not a big play threat on the ground and it almost worked for MSU
Daron: and I think it will for Bama
Justin: yes you have not so much hidden your agenda here. i saw you on halloween, you alabama fan
Justin: This game does feature two of the best return guys in the country, which is intriguing in a game that I don’t figure to be very high scoring I would venture a guess that if Brandon James or Javier Arenas gets loose, that team could win!
Daron: HOLY AMAZING ANALYSIS!
Justin: right??? I think the team that scores more…will win!
Daron: Similarly, the team that forces the other team to score less has a good shot at winning.
Justin: yeah i think it’ss really gonna be the combo of the two that does the loser in
Daron: Most likely Sidebar: Mangino out
Justin: Good, i like that you included it.Â that way we can totally embed the Top Gun Mangino photoshop
Daron: yes totes
Justin: totes mcgotes even Back to florida
Justin: it might be possible that mclain could be overwhelmed
Daron: I think bama. True, Meyer is a schemer
Justin: by the fact that there are so many dudes for him to cover.Â This could be the game where they miss Deonte Hightower
Daron: ohhhhhhhh yeah
Daron: Yes.Â Side bar II: this beer is old, and not good
Daron: Score: Bama – 30,Â UF – 27
Justin: wow high scoring
Daron: it’s going to be an excruciating last drive
Justin: im gonna go with 20-17
Justin: floRIDa.Â OK big terrible twelve
Daron: GAWD I WANT NEBRASKA TO WIN, SO BADLY
Justin: eh I feel for ya
Justin: but i don’t want nebraska in a real game
Daron: don’t like this Texas team much
Justin: because then Nebraska gets thrown to the wolves
Daron: I think texas wins comfortably
Justin: i as well
Daron: this Nebraska team has a good defense, but it’ll be exhausted by the third quarter
Justin: i refuse to think that any conference champion should be challenged by a team that turned the ball over to ISU 8 times
Daron: hahahaha to be fair, it’s the Big XII and an upset in the title game is not unprecedented
Justin: true.Â its a periodic event, a stupid, stupid event, that gives us all kinds of disasters
Daron: yepper: aTm in 98, UT in 99, I guess CU over Texas…
Daron: oh dear, such language
Justin: yeah, OSU was the only team i liked out of this group and they let me down by sucking so i hate them all so i wanted to hear as little as possible about that
Daron: hahahaha fair enough.Â it’s not a conference I have a lot of love for
Justin: id rather have 12 non-AQs than 2 Big 12
Daron: it’s like a twisted big ten/sec bastard child with a southwest twang, elements of the midwest, elements of the south, and texas
Justin: yeah, Texas wins this one
Daron: I think Texas 31 Nebraska 21
Justin: and if not, ill be disgusted
Daron: and it doesn’t seem that close
Daron: oh wow, I hope not, yes. I’d hate that. ANYWAYS, NEXT
Justin: weeee?Â i mean cincinatti vs. pitt?
Daron: If Craig James isn’t careful, he’s gonna get me hammeredÂ I have to drink whenever he says something dumb
Justin: you have to be a former player or broadcast journalist to do this?
Daron: Right?Â We could totally do this. You read the rules at BHGP? I got Oregon
Daron: and thus Craig James.Â Ugh, Anyways.Â Pitt-Cincy: Cincy has no defense.Â Pitt’s offense is “Pro-Style”… literally
Justin: But the offense is Piketacular
Daron: it’s sterile, conservative, and unspectacular in every way
Daron: save that Dion Lewis is good and Baldwin is a freak
Justin: yeah Big East! Does Cincy have a hope of getting in at large with a close loss?
Daron: I think Cincy wins by 14 to 17.Â And no, I don’t think so.Â I do think that Pitt’s D stops them more than their used to, but the O can’t score enough.
Justin: yeah but more than they are used to is 35 points
Daron: yeah your take on the game?
Justin: i think Cincy wins 28-24
Daron: I’ve got Cincy, 34-20
Justin: ohhh fancy
Daron: Ok last game: Clemson GT.Â Big question:Â Who’s watching?!
Justin: not me, in all likelihood
Daron: All the other games feature national title contenders, theoretically.Â You’ve gotta 2-loss GT team and a what, 3 loss Clemson? 4 loss?MEHGT should win…but, that doesn’t mean much to them particularly to their defense
Justin: yea, i was talking about this game today, i really would love to pick GT but i don’t think i can
Justin: i think Clemson has the D-Line to win and that’s what it takes to beat GT
Daron: yeah Clemson almost beat ’em the first time after spotting them a bit of a leap
Justin: yeah for serious
Daron: I think GT wins
Justin: haha i like your sneak attack
Daron: but I think the effect is that no one notices.Â And Yeah, I know.Â I build with opposites.
Justin: haha the Corso!
Justin: okay, you gots a score?
Daron: GT 35, Clemson 20, No one notices.Â GT maintains a lead of 7-14 through most of the game
Justin: ahha i think Clemson wins and gives us an awesome 4 loss BCS team.Â 27-20
Daron: ahhh, the old Pitt in the Fiesta bowl style of game
Daron: they head to the Orange bowl, where they’re disemboweled by some version of the TCU/BSU/Cincy vengeance machine
December 3, 2009
Oregon State @ Oregon, Thursday 9pm
Matt: This should be a great game. Winner goes to the Rose Bowl for the right to beat Ohio State. First one to score 40 wins? I think the team that runs the ball the best will win the game, and there are some really good runners in this game on both sides. I am not completely confident in my pick, but I am gonna go with Oregon at home. Pick: Oregon
Evan: Why is this game at 9? That means I have to tivo the end and watch it in the morning. I have always been intrigued by the Civil War but the game usually never had any significance. I am excited that that has changed this year. I think it’s the Ducks year. Pick: Oregon
Ahad: The Beavers donâ€™t have the defense to stop the Ducks offense. Pick: Oregon
Mike: Didnâ€™t this game decide the Rose Bowl last year as well? If Oregon State would have won last year, they would have gone to the Rose Bowl against Penn State. Oregon won 65-38. I just had to double check I didnâ€™t pull up the basketball box score. So there are some outside factors at work here. OSU is looking for revenge. Could the reverse happen this year? Iâ€™m with Evan that this game is on too late. Who cares if its on the west coast. There are my two favorite Pac-10 teams. Iâ€™m sheepishly picking Oregon. I donâ€™t want to jinx them but they have the ability to win this game in a normal situation. However, they donâ€™t show up every week. Pick: Oregon
November 28, 2009
|Saturday, November 28, 2009|
|Away Team||Pick %||Spread||Pick %||Home Team||Time|
|#23 North Carolina||100%||-5.5||0%||North Carolina State||12:00pm|
|#15 Clemson||83%||-3.5||17%||South Carolina||12:00pm|
|#20 Mississippi||67%||-7.5||33%||Mississippi State||12:21pm|
|#11 Oklahoma State||33%||-5.5||67%||Oklahoma||12:30pm|
|New Mexico||50%||44.5||50%||#4 TCU||1:00pm|
|Florida State||60%||23.5||40%||#1 Florida||3:30pm|
|#14 Virginia Tech||80%||-13.5||20%||Virginia||3:30pm|
|#19 Miami (FL)||100%||-6.5||0%||South Florida||3:30pm|
|#22 Utah||60%||7.5||40%||#18 BYU||5:00pm|
|Georgia||0%||7.5||100%||#7 Georgia Tech||8:00pm|
Pick % are against the spread.
November 26, 2009
|Thursday, November 26, 2009|
|Away Team||Pick %||Spread||Pick %||Home Team||Time|
|#3 Texas||67%||-21.5||33%||Texas A&M||8:00pm|
|Friday, November 27, 2009|
|Away Team||Pick %||Spread||Pick %||Home Team||Time|
|#8 Pittsburgh||83%||-1.5||17%||West Virginia||7:00pm|
|Nevada||0%||12.5||100%||#6 Boise State||10:00pm|
Pick % are against the spread.
November 25, 2009
Temple @ Ohio, Friday 11am
Evan: Why did we pick this game? Is anyone going to have an educated guess on this? I’m going to say Ohio because maybe Temple will think it’s Ohio State. Or maybe since they are playing Temple, Ohio will think they are Ohio State themselves. Pick: Insert Ohio’s Mascot Here
Mike: It was between this and Stanford/ND and I’m sick of picking ND games. Perhaps I should have just gone with ‘Hating on ND’ because I’d have a lot more to say about that. This Temple team excites me. There are usually a few Philly basketball teams to choose from, but never football. A win here and Temple might wind up in the Top 25. I’ll give you a minute to recover from your gasp. Here’s the thing, they started the season by losing to Villanova. Crazy. Of course, I haven’t a clue about them because they were terrible against PSU. And who knows what the deal is with Ohio. Still, this is a huge game for these teams as the winner goes on to the MAC Championship Game against Central Michigan. Pick: Temple
Ahad: Temple has been on a roll since they lost to PSU. This team just finds a way to win when last year they would lose every close game. What does it say about PSU that their best win might be against Temple? The concern for the Owls is that their freshman running back is out with an injury. Either way, the Owls will come out on top and head to the MAC Championship and a possible Top 25 ranking. Pick: Temple
Matt: I hadn’t been keeping tabs on Temple all year and was surprised to see that they have reeled off 9 wins in a row following the loss to PSU. The only thing I know about Ohio is that they lost close games to Connecticut and Tennessee. Can Temple really match PSU’s record at 10-2? I am just gonna go ahead and say they will. Pick: Temple
Pittsburgh @ West Virginia, Friday 7pm
Evan: Oooohhh, Pittsburgh is in line for a BCS bowl if they can beat West Virginia and then take down Cincy. I remember a time when all West Virginia had to do to play for the National Championship was beat a terrible Pittsburgh team. Could this be the same scenario? I think so. Pick: West Virginia, and my boy Noel Devine from Fort Myers is gonna run wild.
Mike: I usually don’t have a team in the Backyard Brawl. This year I’m strangely drawn to Pitt, which is against my nature. I think it has to do with the fact that they really weren’t expected to do anything this year. I was all set to put WVU in the Big East race until they lost to USF. Not that you can consider USF a bad loss, few teams are as up and down as USF (still don’t know what happened to them against Rutgers). The teams are fairly close, with Pitt a little better on both sides of the ball. This Pitt team has learned how to win. Pick: Pittsburgh
Ahad: Pitt will try and contain Devin by keeping him on the sidelines by using a ball control offense. Look for an ugly low scoring affair with Pitt coming out on top. Pick: Pitt
Matt: Will Pitt be caught looking ahead to their showdown with Cincinnati next week? They better not be or they won’t leave Morgantown with a win. All 3 of West Virginia’s losses have been on the road. I was a little concerned with Pitt two weeks ago giving up their big lead to Notre Dame. This should be a good matchup between Dion Lewis and Noel Devine. Which little guy will put his team over the top? I am gonna go with the home team. Pick: West Virginia
Oklahoma State @ Oklahoma, Saturday 12:30pm
Evan: I think this will be a good game. Not nearly as sexy as it would have been if Bryant and Bradford were playing. It’s still a rivalry and the Kowboys have the best shot at winning this game in 6 years. Pick: OK State
Mike: I don’t know what happened to OU last week and OKSt just barely escaped. This is the perfect example of falling into the program hype when I think OU will make this a game, despite evidence to the contrary. This team has to be more than Bradford. Stoops is supposedly a good coach. Pick: Oklahoma State
Ahad: Stoops is a good coach. His team has been hit very hard with injuries. Not many teams can recover from the losses they have suffered this year. The Sooners defense will show up this week. They have the talent, but most of the guys lack experience. This rivalry game will speed up the learning process. Pick: Sooners
Matt: Oklahoma looks to get to 7 wins and ruin Oklahoma State’s BCS hopes. It has been a rough year for Stoops and the Sooners. I don’t completely trust Oklahoma State. They struggled last week and Oklahoma is at home. The Sooners will pull out all stops to get the win. Pick: Oklahoma
Miami (FL) @ South Florida, Saturday 3:30pm
Evan: Both of these teams have been up and down all year. I have been on the USF bandwagon since the beginning, even with their new QB. What is a worse loss, USF’s recent smack down by Rutgers, or Miami losing to UNC? I think USF has lost their momentum for the season. Pick: Miami
Mike: I keep seeing scores early in Miami games and having hope they will lose. It’s similar to many of the Penn State games. They just have the talent to pull away from lesser opponents in the 2nd half. I expect that here, yet, I think USF has proven they will be around for a little while longer. Pick: Miami
Ahad: My gut is telling me Miami. Pick: Canes
Matt: Seriously, which team is gonna show up for each squad? The good or bad versions? I will just say that if both teams play their best games, then Miami will come out on top in the battle of Southern Florida. Pick: Miami
Arkansas @ LSU, Saturday 7pm
Evan: I had a little blip with my SEC picks last week. That never happens to me two weeks in a row. Pick: LSU comes back b/c they’re all pissed off.
Mike: No point in talking about LSU last week. I take away that they will be fired up. They also didn’t quit in that game, except for, well, you know. Pick: LSU
Ahad: Everyone knows how great I am at picking SEC games. Pick: LSU
Matt: Arkansas has been on a roll the past few weeks, but so far, LSU has only lost to ranked opponents in close games. LSU is at home and seething over last week’s loss. Les Miles and Jefferson just need to manage the game better. I think LSU gets back on track. Pick: LSU